There's also a cult theory that it was Bucky's child in Name of the Rose, and that she was born once he was placed into stasis, and that memories of Nikolai were implanted, that the ribbon were just there to sell it While it's a nice fan headcanon , Imo, it takes some of the the impact of the story away. Given how her relationships with both men are retcons, what are your though? I like that she had a life after her time with Ivan, Taras, and Logan yet before she went to Red Room and met Bucky.
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I mean— I’m not sure how that works, timelinewise. Deadly Origin, which is still the “official” version of Natasha’s origin, makes it pretty clear that Natasha accepted the Red Room “chemical” shortly after met Winter Soldier, and that the chemical made her sterile, unable to concieve. So it seems unlikely that she could have had a child with Winter Soldier, much less that her handlers would “cover it up” by giving her an elaborate set of false memories taking place ten years before she joined the Red Room. It also doesn’t explain how other people know this story: is the old woman in the woods a KGB plant, still there decades after the regime has fallen? How did Ivan know about the false memories, considering Imus got his information from his robot brain? That’s kind of the thing with ~everything was a lie~ mindwipe retcons: if you look at them too closely, they don’t make timelines simpler, they make them way more complicated.
I don’t really want to play headcanon police, and I don’t really care if someone wants to write a story where it turns out Nikolai never existed. We all pick and choose the canon we most want to believe, and rework the rest to fit around that.
But from a meta-perspective, Marjorie Liu wrote those flashbacks to give Natasha back those themes of lost love and survival, themes that were essential to her original story that got glossed over when her origin became too much about what really happened. It gave her secrets that didn’t fit into a KGB file, gave her some parts of her past that were truly her own. And it was also, I like to think, a big middle finger to the idea running through her canon that soldiers can’t be mothers, and vice versa, that one kind of femininity is the enemy of another. So I don’t know why this is the part of Natasha’s canon you’d want to deny.
From a shipping perspective, Liu emphasized Natasha’s own World War II coming of age in the context of her relationship with Bucky. Like, to quote her:
Really, it makes perfect sense that she and Bucky are an item, because they’re both from the same generation and were raised in a military setting in WWII. They’ve seen things and speak a common language, that not many others around them will ever understand.
Liu was finding ways that the two of them fit together that didn’t begin with shared trauma. So from a shipping standpoint I’m not sure why you’d try to read past those flashbacks either?
